What about grooming ski pistes this summer ?

Depending on the area, the default nordic skiing practice differs a lot. While in western Europe one can expect a wide area for skating plus tracks for classic style skiing, this is not the case everywhere in the world.

In some regions, the piste preparation is much lighter and the majority of pistes are just signposted crosscountry ski routes for crosscountry touring with extra-large skis.

On OpenStreetMap, we use the tag piste:grooming  to describe accurately the various practices.

Yet today (25.06.2022), there is no way to know what kind of gear is well-suited to run 24 % of the nordic skiing pistes already mapped, that is 22’303 km.

This summer, no need to get the snowcat out of its shed, just take your mouse to update the tags on pistes you know !

On Opensnowmap.org, these pistes appears with a dashed pattern from zoom 12, and display a perplexed skier from zoom 15 onward.

You can also find pistes where the piste:grooming tag is no set on a way nor a relation from this overpass query : https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/1jEl

[out:json][timeout:90];
way["piste:type"="nordic"][!"piste:grooming"]({{bbox}}) -> .nogroomingway;
rel(bw.nogroomingway)["piste:type"="nordic"]["piste:grooming"] -> .groomingrel;
way(r.groomingrel) -> .groomingway;
(.nogroomingway; - .groomingway;);
out geom;

Here is a reminder of the wiki’s definition:

piste:grooming=classic  Two rails for classic style nordic.

piste:grooming=classic;skating  Wide piste for skating and at least one set of classic rails.

piste:grooming=skating  Wide piste for skating (or ‘free’) style nordic.

piste:grooming=scooter  Classic style groomed by a smaller snowmobile, which means that the piste is often much looser and single lane.

piste:grooming=backcountry  Un-prepared itinerary for cross-country skiing, tracks are made manually by skiers.

Major update !!! (But you won’t notice)

The OpenSnowMap so called ‘API’ just had a major refresh.
This is the piece of code that tells you what piste is what when you click on it, list the ones currently on the map and find pistes when you search them by name. It also computes resorts statistics, and so on.

Once based on Osmosis, it is now built on top of a DB created by Osm2pgsql, thanks to the nice work done with its flex-output (and doc!) in the past years. Even the routing function is now directly integrated in the same database.

Normally, you won’t notice big differences when using OpenSnowMap.org, except a huge performance improvement in the requests response delay: in the process all  database queries have been optimized and the code simplified.

January 2022 at OpenSnowMap.org

A couple of new features are available on OpenSnowMap:

Fatbike and lift icons are already rendered on the map, but yet to be updated on the pistes lists in the website.

New routing backend

There’s a brand new routing engine at Opensnowmap.org!

All known piste:type ways and relations are routable (that is, if you don’t know them yet: nordic, downhill, connection, sled, hike, skitour, ski_jump, ski_jump_landing_area, fatbike, sleigh, playground, snow_park, and of course every semi-colon separated combination of those).

The long overdue feature is that this new router take into account way directions: you may find it harder to go uphill for alpine pistes, and downhill with lifts.

For all pistes, the tag piste:oneway=yes/no/-1 is honoured (or oneway=* if no highway=* tag is present on the same way). Lifts are considered oneway only, except aerialway=gondola and aerialway=cable_car, or if oneway=no if specified

Last, some pistes are logically excluded when an access tag is present that contradicts the piste:type=* tag, like ski=no, foot=no and bicycle=no or discouraged. A know limitation is that doesn’t affect relation members yet.

So, if your favorite resort is not routable yet, it’s time to check the connection between the pistes, and lifts. Do you know about the tag piste:type=connection ?

The routing functionality is still a ‘draw yourself a route’ between waypoints feature. If you’d like a different flavor of ski routing, you may want to try the one at freemap.sk.

Thanks a lot for Michal (freemap.sk) work on ski routing with OSRM, even though in the end, Opensnowmap is now using PGrouting.

OpenSnowMap.org ‘desktop’ version phasing-out

I recently added the remaining missing functionalities of the website to the mobile-friendly version, so now it’s time to de-commission the other version.

I hope you won’t be too disappointed to see the old design disappear. This was inherited from ‘pistes-nordiques.org’ that started back in 2011 (if the commit history is right !).

I can’t resist to rebuild the first look of the website back in 2013, of course OpenMapquest tiles are missing.

Legacy OpenSnowMap.org version for desktop as of end 2022.

First look of OpenSnowMap.org somewhere in 2013.

While we’re at it, do you remember this one below ?

pistes-nordiques.org march 2012

In case you feel lost, you can still find the old version (at least for a while) from the menu ‘LEGACY OPENSOWMAP’.

Routing is now availale on mobile

After the switch to Openlayers 6 a few weeks ago, I am now able to provide the Opensnowmap mobile version with routing functionality.

Routing works in a similar way than on the desktop version, it’s only point and click (or rather tap and tap), there is no geocoder. You can however use the ‘Search’ menu to find your pistes.

Just tap near a piste, a waypoint will be snapped onto it. Then drag the point if you want to relocate it accurately. You can add as many waypoint you want, and insert a point along a way to move it afterward.

When you want to exit the routing mode, just tap on the blinking blue routing icon.

No change as been made (yet) on the server-side router, you can still climb back alpine descents and take lifts the other way around. Let say it’s a feature !

 

 

New Opensnowmap for mobile devices

The new mobile version of Opensnowmap is now available after a major overhaul at https://www.opensnowmap.org/mobile.html.

This shouldn’t change a lot of things if you are already used to the mobile website. There is however a new control to get more information about the OpenStreetMap ski pistes data accessible from a simple a tap on the map.

 

Simply select the arrow from the search menu, and tap the map near a piste. The round cursor can be dragged toward another piste at will.

Under the hood

The 8 years old OpenLayers 2 has been replaced by the excellent version 6 of the map library.

OpenSnowMap summer upgrade

The lower traffic on opensnowmap.org website during the summer is the opportunity for some maintenance works and map style upgrade in the following weeks.

Database reload – The base topo map database will be reloaded. It has some glitches (some elements are inexplicably missing), and the upcoming style change needs a couple of new columns. Minutely updates will after that be handled by Osmium. New tiles render will be down during a few days.

Map style change – Both the ski piste overlay and base topo map will be upgraded. Nothing really drastic, I can cite among other changes :

  • Improve mid-zoom (8-11) readibility
  • Reduce the color difference for nordic pistes mapped with the ‘colour’ tag and those without.
  • Add power lines, withpout them, associated cuts in forest land seems odd.
  • Renders single trees, tree rows and hedges.
  • Fix a few glitches on downhill pistes rendering.

 Note for external users

For those using OpenSnowMap tiles in their websites, there is nothing to do. Your users may experience a few tiles missing during database reload, I will do my best to reduce the downtime to a minimum. Those using a proxy-cache to serve the tiles will be warned in advance to have the opportunity to reset their cache in oder to minimize the mosaic effect between old and new tiles created by the new styles deployment.

Update 11 July 2021

The switch is effective for normal tiles, HDPI tiles for the mobile website are deactivated during pre-rendering the base zooms.

piste:difficulty on relations (EN – FR)

As you may have noticed, OpenSnowMap.org renders pistes with no difficulty tagged with faint lines, and, if you zoom enough, there is a ? icon on the pistes.

I figured out recently that some mappers add the piste:difficulty tag on route relations for crosscountry or nordic ski trails. So, I first thought, ‘great’, I missed that, let’s make nicer lines and get rid off all the question marks where I can.

But that’s not really helpful, as on about a third of those pistes, the piste:difficulty tag on relation is inconsistent as the one of the member ways. So, unless I’m missing something, I’d rather advise against lazy mapping and rather incite you to map the difficulty on ways.

What do you think ?

Comments are welcome on this diary entry or the tag wiki discussion page.

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Vous l’aurez peut-être remarqué, sur OpenSnowMap.org les pistes qui n’ont pas le tag piste:difficulty mappé sont rendues avec une ligne plus légère. Si vous zoomez suffisamment, il y a même une icône ? sur la piste.

Récemment, je me suis rendu compte que certains mappeurs mettaient le tag piste:difficulty sur les relations ‘route’ pour le ski de fond. Super, je vais donc pouvoir mettre des lignes plus nette et enlever tout ces points d’interrogation là ou c’est possible.

Mais en fait non. Sur prés d’un tiers de ces pistes, la difficulté renseignée sur les membres n’est pas la même que celle de la relation. Alors à moins que je ne comprenne pas quelque chose, je vous encourage à laisser votre paresse de coté et utiliser le tag piste:difficulty sur les chemins, et non sur les relations.

Qu’en pensez-vous ?

Vous pouvez apporter votre commentaire sur cette entrée de mon  journal ou sur la page de discussion du tag.